Scoring
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Please remove the word "Artistic" from 5.10. It seems superfluous and I don't think it's needed. We only have one event called Freestyle so that should be fine.
If this proposal passes and Thomas Tiercy's judging proposal also passes, it should still apply to that system though the math would have to be adjusted. In other words, when a tie occurs, we would need the results of the combined Technical scores. But the mixing in of the Fault score might make it more complicated in terms of figuring out the formula.
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I still would like to keep the old scoring, I'm glad that the High and the Low score will be removed. It always happens that the score of one judge is totally different from the scores of all the other judges. It is sometimes a sign of a weak judge and you sometimes wonder how that judge comes to such a result.
Also I don't like the idea to give a chief judge the power to remove scores, if he or she thinks the scores are not correct.
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The chief judge is allowed to eliminate scores from judges if they are very inaccurate. This is not a new rule.
I don't like the elimination. The assumption that 40% (2/5) of submitted scores are so inaccurate that we cannot use them is silly. Out judges should be better than this. I think we should include the scores from all judges. That is why they are there to judge. The math with the new scoring system makes it so that if one judge always gives too many points and one judge always gives too few, then the math fixes this. If there is a judge that is just really bad, that is why we have a chief judge checking the scores.
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Scott wrote:
"Our judges should be better than this."
I've been saying that for 20+ years. However I agree we should not automatically remove the high and low if there are only 5 judges. The other three can skew the average and may end in a less accurate result. With a small number of judges I prefer the optional removal of anomalous scores only, though this should involve consulting with the judge first, to see if they had a point, or if they were perhaps misinterpreting something.
Also please remove the unnecessary word "Artistic" or offer a rationale for its inclusion. If people want, I can explain the history of this word being misused for many years after we took it off the name of the event. We have no other forms of Freestyle, so we should just call it Freestyle. :-)
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I agree with the reasons that both Scott and John brought up for dropping the high and low. At NAUCC, for example, we often only have three judges of each type for the beginning age groups. If both the high and the low get dropped then only one judges score is used. This is an extreme example and not something that would ever happen at a Unicon but the judges should be good enough that their points of views are used. Also, when there is a crazy outlying score it is often due to a misinterpretation of the rules. This happened this past year at Unicon with the fall count score. Ryan and I would speak to that judge and look at their notes and every time we were able to modify the score and solve the problem.
John, the reason that I used the word Artistic is because a proposal was passed in the Main Committee using this word. For the reorganization of the rulebook all of the disciplines of unicycling will be grouped. For example, Trials, Street, Flatland, High Jump, and Long Jump are using the group name of Urban. So in this case Freestyle has been chosen as the category name of Standard Skill, X-Style, and Artistic. So regardless of whether or not that word is used in this proposal it will get added once the reorganization is done. I was merely putting it here to save someone time during the re-org.
To summarize the new chapters will look like this (taken directly from the proposal in the Main Committee):
Freestyle: Artistic
Freestyle: Standard Skills
Freestyle: X-Style
So I guess what I'm saying is that if this is an issue for anybody it does not belong in this discussion.
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I almost forgot about that proposal, which was to green-light a bunch of edits with less discussion (because it would take forever). But the name of Freestyle should not be changed to Artistic. Please no! What's needed is an appropriate category name. I hereby submit "Style". That might be too brief, but I think it works. It fits two of the three events very well. Standard Skill (no "s" on the end) is neither artistic, nor freestyle-ish. I would suggest the name "Tricks" but I don't think it would be popular, and I also don't like it as a category label for those events.
I will copy this into that proposal, in hopes it will have some effect there. Meanwhile, Please consider leaving out "Artistic" unless those changes are put into effect and then the new terminology will be appropriate.